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« on: February 10, 2011, 02:25:08 PM »

I posted this on the old forum after seeing it on GC! 

http://www1.k9webprotection.com/

Its free to download and use.  I understand you may have to include a partner in this as a password is required and therefore self defeating if this is choosen by the CG!

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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2011, 02:34:15 PM »

Great post Pete Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2011, 02:41:28 PM »

Pete

My view on this is "why expect something for free?". Giving up gambling is painful and requires a big change in attitude. When we gambled we largely expected to gain a lot from investing very little (rarely did it work out that way but that was what we expected). If we are just going to expect the same when stopping gambling what changes? Very little. It is pretty much the same response I give as one of the reasons why I don't give my book away for free.

Can software given away free be as good as software that is sold and that you subscribe to? Possible but very unlikely. What sort of technical back up do you get if it goes wrong?. Probably nothing so the first time you have a problem with it you uninstall it and go back to leaving yourself exposed to online gambling urges.

If people are committed to giving up gambling then they need to be committed enough to invest what probably only amounts to 1/2 hours bad gambling on an internet casino (or possibly less than a minute's worth depending on how big you stake). If you are just "dabbling" in giving up then you'll half heartedly go for the free stuff, get pissed off when there is a problem and go back to gambling having convinced yourself you cant beat the urges.

Just my thoughts and when I say "you" I mean CGs in general not specifically you.

Hope it helps

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« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2011, 03:04:22 PM »

Thanks for the feedback Phil,

As smokey knows very well, I would have to disagree with you  Cheesy

In the end most CG's dont have a pot to piss in when coming clean (that's why most come clean), so any additional free help we can provide is probably welcome.  If and when they get back on their feet, then maybe a more professional purchase, such as Gamblock can be considered.

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« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2011, 03:07:29 PM »

Don't worry Phil, he disagrees with everyone Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2011, 03:31:29 PM »

Pete
Just for the sake of an argument, most CGs THINK they dont have a pot to piss in when they stop but then relapse and gamble again. If they dont have a pot to piss in when they stop WHY do they need ANY software to stop them gambling, free or otherwise? They supposedly have no money to gamble with so what would be the point of installing free software to stop them gambling. What happens is they find the money to give into an urge where as if they tried a bit harder they could have found the money to buy decent software to stop them succumbing to that urge. If they did a couple of weekend shifts, worked some overtime, sold some stuff on ebay or flipped burgers for a few days that money would be available to buy something that can save them £100s or £1000s.
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« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2011, 10:11:22 PM »

Still dont agree Phil  Cheesy

I think Gamblock is a very small barrier to preventing gambling.  In the end, the world is full of computers so if you wanna gamble it wouldnt take long to find one!!  Dont you have betfair shops now, where you can bet and lay at the speed of light!

Self exclusion and giving all your finances to someone you trust is the only sure way of not gambling online

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« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2011, 08:08:22 AM »

For what its worth I have tried all kinds of blocking software gamblock betfilter etc and in the end managed to take them to bits in under an hour or 2. Sure not every one is say PC Savvy to as dismantle a program built not to be unstalled but with every kind of software like this its just 1 saftey net of many and it does not work for everyone. All my pcs are game blocking free as I feel the only way I can do this is by self exclusion from within, and the fact that Mrs Blocked keeps the wallet closed now. I can see why a free bit of software to assist in blocking sites could be of interest to some. Maybe if the govt wake up they can allow ISPS to block gaming site access at a users request. Totally possible as this kind of thing is already in place in countrys such as Denmark where TELEDK can block any kind of site they want.
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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2011, 08:23:40 AM »

It's the same in Dubai and I believe most of UAE where all gambling sites are blocked.

I don't think it is something GRASP should be pushing for as it is too "big brother" and interfering with people's liberties but it would be great (as you are suggesting) if there was someway of effectively personalising it so you could request the ISP to block access.
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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2011, 03:28:25 PM »

It's the same in Dubai and I believe most of UAE where all gambling sites are blocked.

I don't think it is something GRASP should be pushing for as it is too "big brother" and interfering with people's liberties but it would be great (as you are suggesting) if there was someway of effectively personalising it so you could request the ISP to block access.

No me neither I wouldnt want an auto block. But an option for a person to switch it on. Same as when I got a dongle but the other way round. It blocked all 18 plus sites and interstingly most casinos and gambling sites. I had to get it unblocked by showing id. Somthing like that in reverse would be very possible in the future. But can see before then people need to be woken up, and attitudes need to change.
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« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2011, 03:42:22 PM »

As an example from the 1st March, all over 18 sites on my 02 mobile were blocked unless I took ID into the shop, so surely a system can start where I say, yes I'm over 18 and I want them blocked.
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« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2011, 08:53:41 AM »

As an example from the 1st March, all over 18 sites on my 02 mobile were blocked unless I took ID into the shop, so surely a system can start where I say, yes I'm over 18 and I want them blocked.

Exactly systems are already in place - systems that if being implimented would make the gaming industry shudder.
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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2014, 05:32:03 PM »

Guess what?

I am bumping this after finding this thread 8th on the first page of a Google search.

So much GRASP fame; so few autograph hunters  Roll Eyes


Join now and help save your fellow humans  Wink


ps: we all need help like this software & this forum & this band of brothers & sisters; the human brain is easily fooled-show it 50 photographs a second and it believes they are moving. Dohhhhhhh.

Your same brain will occasionally make you believe you can beat that Casino / Slot game.

At times like those, you are your own worst enemy.  Embarrassed
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