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 on: March 19, 2018, 12:29:27 PM 
Started by DaftDave - Last post by aidan
Not necessarily. That is the upper limit recommended but if the government went for £2 that would be 'entirely consistent with our advice'.

I'm beyond caring anymore. Mouse's patent argument finally got through to my brain - any machine that has a slot to take coins or notes in order to press buttons and watch videos like a monkey is there to fuck you and take your freedom. It locks you into big businesses for life -

Take out loans.
Waste loans in a matter of hours gambling.
Pay them back over years.
End up working for next to nothing as a slave to bookmakers, casinos and loan companies.
Be tricked into thinking that continuing to gamble for the 'big win' is the solution to your problems rather than the direct cause.
Run on this hamster wheel until you wake up. ( Warning : Some people never wake up and die a slave, for others it can take 50 years. For me it was 30).

As soon as i understood the argument it was relatively simple to process it and get out. ( Mouse i owe you a craft ale, i look at your twitter feed several times a week for inspiration).  

The limit could be 30p rather than £30 and that truth would still apply.  

I also finally accepted that i gambled because i really enjoyed gambling, especially on FOBT's. It's easy to play the victim card but i kept on going back for more - and although the reasons for doing that are complex, the truth that is was fucking enjoyable is always buried under the resulting carnage. Yes they are addictive by design but they would be, wouldn't they ? Just look at some of the design patents.  

Fuck them all, i have a life to lead !


 on: March 19, 2018, 08:29:07 AM 
Started by DaftDave - Last post by DaftDave

 on: March 17, 2018, 01:03:03 PM 
Started by Neuroliberation - Last post by Neuroliberation
someone else mentioned to me about that the other day, the CCTV i mean.
excuses excuses ay

 on: March 15, 2018, 10:58:13 AM 
Started by Neuroliberation - Last post by DaftDave
It is strange that when a bookie wants to exclude you from their shops they can do it countrywide and instantly with images from their CCTV.

As we know, they do not want to exclude us, they want to be seen on doing something, and if it does not work well what a shame.

It is simple to add a webcam to a FOBT terminal costing thousands, that in turn could use face recognition to freeze the terminal.

The funding, in part, could come from a rule that says if you self exclude and put money in a machine you have no right to have that money back, or any winnings.


 on: March 13, 2018, 12:02:41 PM 
Started by Neuroliberation - Last post by Neuroliberation
The Ben is back. A few slips and falls along the way but determination is the main thing.

Whilst I'm currently communicating quite a lot with social workers a the moment due to marketing my book about my childhood story Poems From a Runaway (cheeky plug there), I'm going to be working hard on getting my new petition out to them.

For those that see the flaws in the self-exclusion system, I have decided to try and raise debate to change the policies so that gamblings can self-exclude on site such as inside betting shops.

I am tired of people being told immediately after they have lost all their money, that they then have to go and buy two passport sized photos before they can self-exclude , this is a failing system.

So I'm proposing that ALL betting shops MUST have on-site, a camera so that staff can take your photo and upload it to the system via USB. I am also proposing staff are trained efficiently to use them.

OK so nothing like the old days when I tried to aim big. But it could be great steps and I certainly plan to help open up the debate again on problem gambling.

Like always I can't do it all without your help, so lets get this petition out far and wide.

The petition can be found at at the following link -

Excuses for slow responses on the GRASP-Forum site, I'm not as fast with it all as seven years ago. It's nice to be back though Smiley

Big Love Smiley

Ben Westwood.

P.S. Neuroliberation site needs a lot of work, and it's very early days for me back here,k so will be promoting stuff via my personal blog site in the meantime.  For more information on whats spurred me on and for more on why we should have these camera's then you can rE#ead my latest post at

 on: February 16, 2018, 08:15:01 AM 
Started by Anonamouse - Last post by DaftDave
I think this is where £2 spins will take us

 on: February 16, 2018, 05:30:19 AM 
Started by Anonamouse - Last post by Anonamouse
Bookies odds on to become amusement arcade

No more having a flutter on the horses

Odds are on that a Nuneaton town centre bookies will be transformed into an amusement arcade.

Ladbrokes wants to turn its betting shop in Abbey Street into an amusement gaming centre with slots and machines.

The application for the bookies, which sits in between the former Pizza Hut and a vape store, has been submitted to Nuneaton and Bedworth Borough Council.

It is being recommended the plan is given the go-ahead, especially given the number of other betting shops in the town centre.

The plan is to transform the bookies into an amuse gaming centre (Image: Image courtesy of Google Street maps)
“This contrast will add to the vitality and viability of the centre,” says a report to the Town Hall’s planning committee.

“It is likely that uses such as this will be open during the day, and potentially in to the evening, which will help to enliven this section of the street which is dominated by many daytime only uses.”

The application will be discussed at a meeting at 5pm in the council chamber at the Town Hall on Tuesday (February 20).

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 on: February 05, 2018, 11:30:38 PM 
Started by Anonamouse - Last post by Eugene
Yet still we have gambling machines AIMED at kids and national lottery games at 16 plus. Sickening.

 on: February 03, 2018, 11:17:39 AM 
Started by Anonamouse - Last post by Anonamouse

Tracey Crouch The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport

The Gambling Commission published its annual Young People and Gambling report in December 2017. This showed that the percentage of children who had spent their own money on gambling in the last week had fallen to 12%, from 16% in 2016. The drop in participation rates is statistically significant.

The results were based on a survey of 2,881 11-16 year olds in Great Britain. Of that 2,881, 0.9% (22 boys and 3 girls) were considered problem gamblers. Due to small sample sizes and changes in the population surveyed, this is not a statistically significant change from last year, which found a rate of 0.4%.

Protecting children and the vulnerable from being harmed or exploited by gambling is a core objective of the regulation of gambling in Great Britain, and a priority for the government. In October the government published a consultation on Gaming Machines and Social Responsibility across the industry. The consultation closed on 23 January, and we will consider all responses and publish our response and next steps in due course.

 on: February 03, 2018, 08:11:30 AM 
Started by Anonamouse - Last post by Anonamouse
William Hill paid £500,000 to Dundee City Council following fraudster’s conviction

by Paul Malik
© Supplied/PA
Mark Conway, left, and a William Hill shop, right.
Gambling giant William Hill handed Dundee City Council £500,000 following the conviction of IT fraudster Mark Conway.

Conway was jailed in 2017 after he was found to have defrauded the local authority out of £1.065 million through an elaborate purchasing scheme.

Following a meeting of the council’s scrutiny committee in December, it was reported a gambling operator had paid an “ex gratia” payment to the local authority.

An “ex gratia” payment is one made from a sense of moral obligation rather than because of any legal requirement.

The Courier discovered who paid the undisclosed sum, and its value, using freedom of information legislation.

Despite being outed as the company “handing back” the proceeds of Conway’s crime, William Hill plc refused to answer questions put to them.

A spokesperson for the company blankly refused to comment as to why they felt “morally” obliged to give Dundee City Council £500,000.

Addiction charity Gamble Aware said William Hill should have been aware of the “obvious signal” Conway’s spending would have shown, something highlighted by the figure William Hill handed to Dundee City Council.

A spokesperson said: “Gambling companies should be constantly looking for any indication that their customers are getting into trouble with their gambling.

“One obvious signal is a higher than normal level of spending, which these figures suggest could have been very clear.

“It would be disappointing if, in such a case, this was not spotted and properly investigated.

“It is quite right that where funds are the proceeds of crime, they are returned to the rightful owner and in the past, the Gambling Commission has required this when it reviews such cases to see if there has been a breach of the bookmaker’s gambling licence.”

Labour councillor Richard McCready, who tabled a motion calling on chief executive David Martin to write to the Gambling Commission and the Department of Digital Culture, Media and Sport, said the issue was incredibly “grubby”.

He said: “It is clear Mark Conway is the main culprit in this case, however there has been a failure on behalf of the banks, the gambling commission, William Hill and the council and it is important we learn the lessons from this.

“I also understand in these times of austerity, the council needs money wherever it can get it, but I am not convinced the council should allow William Hill to clear their conscience with this payment.

“There are no conditions attached to this payment but the whole issue is just a little bit grubby.

“I’m sure the gambling industry will say they will always spot problem users, but it is obvious in this case they did not.

“William Hill are a well known, High Street company and you would expect better from them. This fraud was discovered, to some extent, by chance. If it had not been discovered, Conway could still be spending stolen money with William Hill.”

The Gambling Commission said it could not comment on the issue, because of its role as industry regulator.

A spokesperson for Dundee City Council said: “The council has written to the Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport and is awaiting a response.”

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